Introduction
Tony Stark is with Heimdall and the Mighty Thor in the MCU realm of Valhalla. This is how Iron Man achieved GOD STATUS.
Thor Love and Thunder introduces Valhalla to the MCU when Heimdall greeted the Mighty Thor Jane Foster to its golden gates. But could Tony Stark be in Valhalla too? What makes him eligible to dine amongst Odin, the Warriors Three and the rest of the heroes of Asgard? MasterTainment explains! #ThorLoveAndThunder #Thor4 #MCU
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Welcome back to new rock stars, it's me mt and spoilers for thor, love and thunder ahead, because we're going to be talking about the second post-credits scene that formerly introduced valhalla to the mcu, I hope you're gone because I just spoiled it so I hope you're gone.
Oh my god! Please leave! If you haven't seen this movie, it's specifically how I believe that one anthony edward stark is about to meet up with the coolest gravity.
Scientist thor has ever rollerbladed with within that holy hallowed hall of heroes, and let me tell you why I've entered babies but before we do be sure, to hit up new rockstarsmerch.com to find our newest latest obsession, shirt inspired by thor, love and thunder, and also miss marvel both of those shirts are amazing and can be bought over at new rockstarsmerch.com, so hit up rockstarsmerch.com today.
Alright, so thor love and thunder, of course, at the very end, finally introduced the realm of valhalla to the marvel cinematic universe, establishing that, in order to gain admittance into a valhalla, you must be a god who died in battle, and I believe that tony stark is one of those gods, mostly because of what appears to be at the mcu's secret, apparent definition as to what a god is in the mcu, and it looks like to me that what makes you a god in the mcu is having a crazy amount of cosmic energy flowing throughout your nervous system.
That's it really.
For example, our first ever real look at what a god's biology looks like sort of came in the form of ego the living planet in guardians of the galaxy vol 2.
What are you exactly? I'm what's called a celestial sweetheart, a celestial like a god.
Small g son ego was literally just a big-ass brain filled with blue cosmic energy at the very center of his planet, and a little bit later in that movie, peter quill himself becomes a god by connecting with and channeling the unbelievably massive amounts of cosmic energy that lived inside of ego's planet and after peter made that connection to the light within ego's planet ego specifically tells peter that death would be a stranger to him because he is now a god.
Oh peter death will remain a stranger to both of us as long as the light burns within the planet, and we also see this shown in chongqi and the legend of the ten rings when the blue dark energy of the ten rings kept wenwu from dying for centuries and gifted him.
God-Like power and authority like he had all that cosmic energy flowing in his blood, and we can see as much in that little close-up shot with his arm before baby groot killed eagle.
The living planet, like the god butcher that he is ego, was a master of massive amounts of blue cosmic energy, a cosmic godly energy that has intrigued a lot of entities in the mcu in the past.
You know people like red skull, the blue, cosmic energies of the tesseract known in the mcu as dark energy, and there is even an entire research facility dedicated to looking into the dark energy inside of the tesseract.
You know before loki destroyed the joint dark energy research facility at the beginning of avengers 1, and that's the same place that marvel did a lot of research in while she was alive.
Thor odinson himself is a massive dark energy conduit, which is why he was able to completely decimate hella's army without the aid of mjolnir in for ragnarok, and also why his lightning is blue in the mcu and never yellow, like electros or even gold like zeus's lightning.
It's always specifically blue and hey speaking of zeus.
What makes zeus himself a god, isn't just his ability to decide who is invited to the orgy.
Ah god, I wish it were me.
Oh no, because I believe it's the massive amount of golden energy that courses through his vain violent veins, which is why we see in the movie that the blood of the gods are gold.
It's because gods, like zeus and the god of gore's planet, are all conduits of golden soul, singularity energy, the same type of energy that flows in the synthetic bodies of earth's many gods, the eternals, and why the eternals wake up in front of mcu earth's golden sun after charging their bodies up with its energy at the very beginning of the movie like you, can even call it soul singularity because soul means some, and this is basically why captain marvel is stronger than thor in the mcu, as we saw play out in season.
One of what, if captain marvel, has more cosmic energies flowing within her body with both blue and golden energies, powering her being like the entirety of captain marvel.
1 was a movie about carol, danvers, unlocking her golden energy abilities by learning how to believe in her own self, because her golden power is the power that everyone on mcu earth is entitled to, because it's the golden energy from the sun, which is why all the sorcerers in commerce use golden energy for their.
You know portals and stuff, and she only really used her blue dark energy powers that she got from the tesseract for the first two acts of the film thor himself would not get access to this type of golden power until he started wielding the golden thunderbolt of zeus.
Halfway through thor love and thunder, and when that happened, the power of thor became a combination of blue dark energy and gold soul singularity, and that is very much represented in his actual attire throughout the film he wears blue and gold, and also considering that aeroshim told us that celestials are literally born from the aggregated golden energies of intelligent life.
Energy levels really do determine your status of godhood in the mcu, which is why jane foster a normal human woman for most of her life was able to enter valhalla at the very end of her life because her body was flowing with both the blue and golden energies that were coursing through for odinsen's body at the end of the filming, and it's all because the very enchantment that odin put into the hammer it's like whosoever is worthy gets the power of four the power of thor odinson, and at that time he was wielding his normal blue powers.
Alongside the orange powers of zeus's thunderbolt, so yeah jane foster, died in battle with the status of a god and those are the prerequisites to enter valhalla.
I cannot think of a human being that has had more cosmic energy in their body than tony stark did during the final avengers battle, because tony stark had not won cosmic singularity like the eternals, not two cosmic singularities, like captain marvel or even the scarlet witch who, at the time of one division, multiverse of madness, was in possession of red chaos, energy and yellow mind stone.
Energy from vision, tony stark himself, had all six core energies of the mcu coursing throughout his soon to be fried body, and he used those energies to save the entire universe from certain doom.
You know more than the gods of the universe were using their energies for anyway, they were just chilling like at the last moment of his life, tony stark wielded the power of a god and became like a god like jane foster, which is why jane foster likely had dinner with the flirtatious tony stark in the halls of valhalla right after she arrived, but also as a side note.
We cannot forget how tony stark himself was basically a man in god, armor ever since iron man 2, when he used howard, stark's, dark energy science, that howard learned from the tesseract to make him a new arc reactor, a blue dark energy arc reactor that got juiced up in avengers, 1 after being hit by thor's, dark energy.
Lightning, it's all gone power baby.
It all connects hashtag the marvel trigger theory, that's a reference to a theory.
I did a couple months ago about how all the energies of the mcu are linked to certain aspects of our reality.
It's really interesting check it out, but that is why I believe anthony edward stark is in valhalla as we speak.
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FAQs
What does Valhalla mean in Thor: Love and Thunder? ›
In Thor: Ragnarok, Thor described Valhalla as a place where "the brave shall live forever." It was commonly thought of as a paradise, but only for those who died a noble and glorious death. This helped Asgardians see beyond tragedy and helped them celebrate their loved ones for how they lived.
Why did Jane Foster go to Valhalla? ›But the second scene was more somber, showing Jane Foster arriving in Valhalla after dying of cancer.
What is the meaning of Valhalla in Thor? ›In Thor: Love and Thunder, we're told that Valhalla is an afterlife reserved for Asgardians who fall in battle. It's a paradise, and being sent there is a mark of honor.
Is Iron Man Coming Back In Thor: Love and Thunder? ›*MINOR SPOILERS* At the end of Thor: Love and Thunder, the ending slate left OG 6 Avengers fans overjoyed as it read: "Thor will return." With Iron Man (Robert Downey Jr.), Captain America (Chris Evans) and Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) getting their hero conclusions in the Marvel Cinematic Universe with Avengers: ...
How did Odin get into Valhalla? ›While he had eventually recovered from the spell placed on him by Loki, Odin chose to remain in exile in Norway and would ultimately reach the end of his extremely long life. After an emotional farewell to his sons, Odin finally went to Valhalla.
What does the Valhalla scene mean? ›The Valhalla scene is a heartwarming bookend to Jane's story after she dies heroically, sacrificing herself to save the children. Jane definitely died a hero, but the Valhalla scene explains that yes, she is as dead as Heimdall is, but at least her passing is not truly the end of her story.
Why was Mjolnir killing Jane? ›In the comics, whenever Foster turned into Mighty Thor, Odinforce would negate any chemotherapy received. Hence, turning back into a human form meant cancer returned aggressively, killing her slowly.
Who is Thor's daughter? ›While there is no character named "Love" raised by Thor in Marvel Comics, Thor does, in fact, have a daughter in an alternate reality with Lady Sif, though this child is named Torunn Thorsdóttir. Interestingly, Torunn translates to "Thor's love," so the name in Love & Thunder does have a connection to Marvel Comics.
Why did Mjolnir choose Jane? ›In the film, Mjolnir “chooses” Jane not because of her own worthiness, but because of what we see in a flashback to when she and Thor were still a happy couple.
Does Thor go to Valhalla if he dies? ›It's revealed by Thor (Chris Hemsworth) that only those who die on the battlefield can go to Valhalla.
Why is Valhalla important in Marvel? ›
In the Asgardian afterlife, Valhala was the place to where heroes and honored dead went. Currently hidden in Niffleheim, Valhalla was originally a special region of Asgard. After Odin sacrificed his life to give Thor the full Odinforce, his spirit crossed to Valhalla.
Can Jane leave Valhalla? ›In the comics, Jane also becomes a Valkyrie after losing Mjolnir, and as they are the ones who aid lost souls in finding Valhalla, it is viable that the MCU could allow Jane to return as a Valkyrie who can come and go from Valhalla as she pleases.
Can Marvel bring back Iron Man? ›Iron Man Probably Won't Be Back
Iron Man also transitioned from his self-centered, egocentric personality, to a team player, leader, and mentor. Having Stark return would be pleasing to many fans, but it could be anti-climactic and tarnish the character's legacy.
Valhalla is a part of Asgardian mythology and legend. It is said that Asgard's warriors will, upon their deaths, be resurrected and brought to the halls of Valhalla, where they will live forever in paradise.
How could they bring Iron Man back? ›technology, Tony Stark could return to the MCU through hologram. In the Ironheart comics, Tony does appear as a hologram as his A.I. operates Iron Man suits and projects an image of himself. In the MCU, the Wakandans already use holographic technology to communicate through Kimoyo Beads.
Who is stronger Zeus or Odin? ›Also, other cosmic figures have regarded them as equals. All things considered, Zeus is certainly on Odin's level, so as long as Marvel portrays him accurately, he should be one of the MCU's most powerful characters.
Who is Odin to Zeus? ›To answer the question right away, Zeus and Odin are not the same, nor have they ever been thought to be the same entity at any point throughout history. Zeus is the king of the gods in Greek mythology, whilst Odin is the king in Norse mythology.
Why is Odin so weak in MCU? ›Because he's past his prime, not the main character, and the story never needed him to do anything that powerful. Pretty badass when he showed up on Sleipnir in Thor 1 though.
Who is the little girl at the end of Thor: Love and Thunder? ›Who Plays Love? Gorr's daughter is played by India Rose Hemsworth, the daughter of Thor himself, Chris Hemsworth, and actress Elsa Pataky.
Who is Hercules in Thor? ›Hercules actor Brett Goldstein recently revealed two unlikely ways his character Hercules could potentially beat Chris Hemsworth's Thor in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Previously in last year's Thor: Love and Thunder, Marvel Studios surprised audiences with the introduction of Goldstein's Hercules.
Who was Zeus son at the end of Thor? ›
The Prince of Power has arrived! In the final post-credit scene of Thor: Love and Thunder, a humiliated Zeus (Russell Crowe) plots his revenge against Thor and the other superheroes who take the worship due to gods. He sends them a god in the form of a hero with his son, Hercules, played by Ted Lasso's Brett Goldstein.
Why couldn t Thor save Jane? ›Thor Odinson initially suspects Jane might be this new hero. But he eliminates her from his list of suspects because she is going through chemotherapy for breast cancer, which, he reasons, would make her too weak to fight.
Why did the hammer not save Jane? ›At first it appears that Jane has solved her issue but it soon becomes evident that the hammer is hindering her healing process rather than helping, because it drains her life energy every time she wields it.
Can Jane Foster come back from Valhalla? ›Thor found himself unable to accept Foster's death, so, with the help of Odin, used the power of the God Tempest that was contained in the destroyed Mjolnir to bring Jane back to life.
Is The Little Girl Thor's real daughter? ›Thor: Love and Thunder might have been a divisive movie among fans of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but one of the best elements was the presence of India Rose Hemsworth, star Chris Hemsworth's actual daughter. In the film, India Rose Hemsworth plays Love, the daughter of the movie's main villain Gorr the God Butcher.
What is the power of Gorr's daughter? ›At the film's end, we can see the daughter has developed powers by blasting through Thor's pan with her eyes. The duo then runs onto the battlefield to fight aliens as the daughter wields the Stormbreaker, and Thor the Mjolnir, while it's revealed that they are called Love and Thunder.
Do Thor and Jane have a child? ›History. Torunn is the daughter of Thor and Jane Foster. She's a member of the Next Avengers.
Why can Thor no longer wield Mjolnir? ›Sadly though, Thor's treasured Mjolnir was crushed at the hands of his sister, Hela (Cate Blanchett) in Thor: Ragnarok. This led him to forge a new weapon, a battle-axe called Stormbreaker, in Avengers: Infinity War.
Is Thor no longer worthy of Mjolnir? ›Mjolnir made its triumphant return in Thor: Love and Thunder, but it didn't come back for Thor, despite the God of Thunder still being worthy. Thor's trusty hammer, Mjolnir, debuted in the MCU before the God of Thunder himself, having appeared in the post-credits scene of Iron Man 2.
What did Odin spell on Mjolnir? ›Originally there was no restriction placed on the hammer for who can use it but after Thor's reckless behavior, Odin Borson placed an enchantment on it. This spell read "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor." Only those deemed worthy to lift Mjolnir can.
Where would Thor go if he died? ›
Within the MCU, they have established Thor as an immortal, making him an invaluable member of the Avengers and one of the most powerful beings to ever exist. As a result he can be killed in battle, but he will always return to his body one way or another.
What happens to Thor after Odin dies? ›With the death of Odin, Thor becomes the All-Father. Just as Odin became the All-Father after Bor died or was transferred into living snow (different story line). Thor starts off slowly, just as the Odin power is transferred to him slowly. And it comes quicker & quicker as times goes along.
Is Loki alive in Valhalla? ›Loki fulfills both requirements. Not only is he canonically the Norse God of Mischief, but he also died fighting the Mad Titan himself. Heimdall (Idris Elba) dies much like Loki did in Infinity War, and Love and Thunder's post-credits scene confirms that he ended up in Valhalla.
Why Loki isn t in Valhalla? ›Classic Loki's timeline diverged from the main one when he left the remote world to see Thor. That suggests the regular version of the character remained in isolation, so he may not have made it to Valhalla after all.
Do only Asgardians go to Valhalla? ›Similarly, Jane Foster appearing in Valhalla shows that non-Asgardians are welcome there, which is in line with the comics in which Jane, Frank Castle, and Flash Thompson are all able to go to Valhalla, despite not being Asgardian.
Do you have to beat AC Valhalla to get Mjolnir? ›For players that have managed to all of that and completed the main story of Assassin's Creed Valhalla, they now need to head to the northernmost part of Norway. As long as they have all five pieces of armor equipped, the path will be clear and they can then claim Mjolnir, one of the most powerful weapons in the game.
Will Thor ever see Jane again? ›Thor attempted to use the God Tempest (an elder god in the shape of a cosmic thunderstorm) contained within Mjolnir to revive Jane. She was at the gates of Valhalla at the time, and, acknowledging her sacrifice, Odin (in Valhalla) joined his son's efforts, and together, they managed to revive her.
Who is the girl Thor adopts? ›Gorr's Daughter Love is Chris Hemsworth's Real-Life Daughter
Jane Foster promises Gorr with her own dying breath that Thor will take care of the child, and Thor, now heartbroken and alone, chooses to adopt the child. But in real life, the actor that plays Love is actually Chris Hemsworth's real daughter.
Brunnhilde asked Jane if she wanted to become a Valkyrie, and she agreed. So, Jane was upgraded to Valkyrie status and gifted Undrjarn the All-Weapon. Since becoming a Valkyrie, Jane has had a full plate.
Who will replace Iron Man in Marvel? ›Riri Williams flew onto the screen as the next Iron Man character, Ironheart, complete with a brand new iron suit. After the death of Robert Downey Jr's Tony Stark in Avengers Endgame, the thought of a new Iron Man might be a little hard to swallow, but not for the actor himself.
Who is the next Iron Man after Tony Stark? ›
At the end of the war, Tony Stark falls into a coma while fighting Captain Marvel, spurring Riri into continuing his legacy as a hero. With the help of an AI duplicate of Stark, Riri designs an improved suit of armor and takes on the name of Ironheart.
What is Odin the god of? ›Odin has many names and is the god of both war and death. Half of the warriors who die in battle are taken to his hall of Valhalla. He is the one-eyed All-Father, who sacrificed his eye in order to see everything that happens in the world. He has two sons, Balder by his first wife Frigg and Thor by Jord.
Why did Jane end up in Valhalla? ›But the second scene was more somber, showing Jane Foster arriving in Valhalla after dying of cancer.
Why did Jane Foster make it to Valhalla? ›In the comics, Jane Foster also goes to Valhalla when she dies as Mighty Thor. She's granted entry by Odin as a reward for saving all of Asgard, and similar to the events in Thor: Love and Thunder, it's an instance of these rules of entry for Valhalla being broken.
Is Tony Stark coming back in Avengers 5? ›Well, it is highly unlikely that Tony Stark will return since there are high chances of him being replaced by young Avenger called the Iron Heart, as introduced in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.
Is Black Widow coming back? ›Los Angeles: Actress Scarlett Johansson, known for her role as Black Widow in 'Iron Man 2' and the 'Avengers' movies, including 2021's 'Black Widow', has announced that she does not intend to make a comeback to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. "Yeah, it was awesome. It was like the best time ever.
Is Tony Stark coming back in Secret Wars? ›Robert Downey Jr. Thanks to some reports and rumors flying around, fans were convinced that Robert Downey Jr. will once again play the iconic Avenger in Avengers: Secret Wars. But it now looks like that all the hype was for nothing as the actor's return is off the table.
Why is Valkyrie called a king in Thor: Love and Thunder? ›While technically Thor is King of his people, it's Tessa Thompson's Valkyrie who takes on the leadership role after Thor retreats into a drunken haze. Why is Valkyrie named “King” rather than “Queen?” Because gender-coding renders “King” a more powerful word than “Queen.”
What does Valhalla mean for MCU? ›Valhalla is a part of Asgardian mythology and legend. It is said that Asgard's warriors will, upon their deaths, be resurrected and brought to the halls of Valhalla, where they will live forever in paradise.
Who is Gorr's daughter? ›Despite only being present for a few minutes, Gorr's daughter was, in many ways, the heart of the story. Played by Hemsworth's real-life daughter, India Rose Hemsworth, Gorr's child died in Love and Thunder's opening moments, cradled by her father (a genuinely moving scene carried by Bale's impressive performance).
Is Asgard and Valhalla the same? ›
Valhalla is one of the 12 or more realms into which Asgard, the dwelling place of the gods in Norse mythology, is divided.
Why isn t Valkyrie the Queen? ›Now the actress has settled the debate for those who have been bothered by the gendered titling of Valkyrie, explaining she is mainly King simply because no one bothered to change the title.
Is Valkyrie queer in love and Thunder? ›In Thor: Ragnarok, the filmmakers cut a scene depicting a woman walking out of Tessa Thompson's character, Valkyrie's, bedroom. This scene would have made Valkyrie the first officially bisexual character on–screen in an MCU film and one of the franchise's first LGBTQ characters.
Who is Hercules in Thor love Thunder? ›Hercules actor Brett Goldstein recently revealed two unlikely ways his character Hercules could potentially beat Chris Hemsworth's Thor in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Previously in last year's Thor: Love and Thunder, Marvel Studios surprised audiences with the introduction of Goldstein's Hercules.
Can people return from Valhalla in Marvel? ›In the comics, Jane also becomes a Valkyrie after losing Mjolnir, and as they are the ones who aid lost souls in finding Valhalla, it is viable that the MCU could allow Jane to return as a Valkyrie who can come and go from Valhalla as she pleases.
How does Thor's daughter have powers? ›Cosmic Energy Manipulation: Due to being revived by Eternity, Love has been bestowed with the ability to manipulate cosmic energy. Optic Blasts: Love is able to project powerful cosmic blasts from her eyes.
Who is stronger Thor or Hercules? ›Hercules' strength is rarely matched. There were times when he even overpowered the Incredible Hulk – a feat that not even Thor could complete. So, when it comes to physical strength, Hercules is the strongest. It was shown multiple times throughout comics.
Is Gorr's daughter worthy of Mjolnir? ›During the battle, Brigid finally proved herself worthy of Mjölnir and became Thor, something MCU fans might predict happens to Love in live-action.
Who killed Thor in Norse mythology? ›According to Norse mythology, Thor dies in an epic battle with a monstrous serpent named Jörmungandr, also known as the Midgard (middle earth) Serpent.
Why can t Odin go to Valhalla? ›It's revealed by Thor (Chris Hemsworth) that only those who die on the battlefield can go to Valhalla. As he stands over Sif, a fellow Asgardian warrior, he tells her that she must die on the battlefield if she hopes to go to Valhalla, a fact that holds true to traditional Norse mythology.